chuck, break down the polls for us. >> well, you know, it's been interesting about him. we've got a new poll that comes out tonight. what i've thought interesting about the polls in the last few days, quinnipiac, cnn, they all show the same thing. the president's number, the bounce he got out of the convention, it has not deflated. he is staying in the 49%, 50%. >> granholm. >> the fluidity is in romney's number. romney is anywhere, instead of sitting in the single digits, instead of the low 40s, he's moved up to the mid-40s, inching up to 46% or 47%. that shows you where the give is. that's good news for romney, the bad news is, he needs the president to deflate a little bit. he's got to start peeling -- granted this is step one which is catching up, step two is then to peel away a little bit from the president. >> so much easier said than done. rattner? >> chuck, what about the issue that romney is doing so well in the red states that makes the race look closer on a national basis but when you get into the swing state polls, obama is now opening so much daylight it's g